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Pro and con for tankless water heater

A promoter's dream:
Spend $1000+ to save $1-8 a month
2011                                                                                    See chart as pdf
Type of heater Saves energy Unlimited  hot water  Easy to convert  Water pressure  Particulate in water Life Expectancy Can be integrated
with solar, geothermal, heat-pump or other energy source
Temperature adjustment
Whole house tankless electric

No savings

Can cost more.

 Hard for electricity to heat water as water rushes past in pipe. See image
-Yes- When unit not undersized with optimal conditions

-Not consistant with saving energy or water

- No hot water in power outage
No, 
- Requires 90-120 Amps

- Typical home electric service is 150-200 Amps (check main breaker to see amps of  your service)
- Upgrade service panel to convert to tankless electric.
1/2-3/4 gal per minute water flow before heater turns on

Low pressure causes tankless to shut off elements
High tech sensors can clog

Succeptable to lime build-up.
De-lime each year
Claims of longer life not backed by warranty.

No warranty without plumber trained by specific manufacturer.

Require surge protector
No
-Cannot store heat from other source

-Always demand
fossil fuel
-Temperature adjustment with dip switches.
Read Page 4

Adjusting temperature can shut down elements if water cannot heat fast enough.
Whole house tankless gas
Yes /$1-$8  month energy savings
see hidden costs
-Yes- When unit not undersized with optimal conditions

-Not consistant with saving energy or water

- No hot water in power outage
No,
Requires 1-1/4" gas pipe
Requires air intake pipe
Requires stainless-steel flue
Requires 110V electric line 
Requires professional installation 
1/2-3/4 gal per minute water flow before heater turns on

Low pressure causes tankless to shut off burner
High tech sensors can clog

Succeptable to lime build-up.
De-lime each year

Claims of longer life not backed by warranty.

No warranty without plumber trained by specific manufacturer.

Not proteced by FVIR

Require surge protector
No
-Cannot store heat from other source

-Always demand
fossil fuel
-Temperature adjustment with dip switches.
Read Page 4

Adjusting temperature can shut down burner if air, fuel and vent don't match.
Regular electric water heater
Save 3-5% operating cost by lowering thermostat 10º  
-Heats 21 Gal per hour
see chart

- Stored hot water available any time.

Regular electric water heater can be installed by homeowner Hot water available with any flow or pressure

Allows water conservation
Sediment build-up
can be drained
See how

'Self-cleaning' tanks available

Corrosion-fighting anode rod inside each unit
6-12+ years
-No extended warranty without professional installation.

-Homeowner can diagnose and repair same day using locally-available interchangable parts
Yes

-With minor pipe changes, storage water heaters store heat gathered from other sources
-Simple to adjust temperature. Read
Regular gas water heater
Save additional 4-9% operating cost by insulating tank -Heats 41 Gal per hour
see chart

- Stored hot water available any time.
Regular gas water heater can be installed by homeowner
How to install gas water heater
Hot water available with any flow or pressure

Allows water conservation
Regular flushing and clean burner maintains tank
See how

'Self-cleaning' tanks available

Corrosion-fighting anode rod inside each unit
6-12+ years
No extended warranty without professional installation.

Homeowner can usually diagnose and repair using locally available parts

Proteced by FVIR
Yes

-With minor pipe changes, storage water heaters store heat gathered from other sources
-Simple to adjust temperature. Read
See chart as pdf

compare tankless
> Tankless problems are difficult to diagnose
> Tankless cannot be repaired by homeowner
> Delays waiting for tankless manufacturer means homeowner has no hot water
clogged sensor
Pressure sensor fails after 2 years
Tankless cannot be exposed more than 11 grains hard water
Takagi TK1

Bosch 1600P
Water heater parts
Tankless are not made in your town and cannot be repaired by homeowner

Why spend a $1000 to save $1 - $8 a month?
Read Bradford White side-by-side test results
Read ConsumerReports.org side-by-side test results
Read Common problems with tankless water heaters
Read There are many things that can be done wrong in tankless installation
Read 9+ ways to save more with regular storage-type heater

How to install tank-type gas water heater
Tankless maintenance
Troubleshoot Rheem Tankless water heater
Troubleshoot Bosch Tankless water heater
Hidden cost of tankless

Bobby Dollar
Check it out
before you buy
Before buying a tankless:
1 Ask questions
2. Read warranty instead of promo literature
3. Look at parts sheet and ask how expensive future problems will be
4. Tankless heaters require softener & filter: sediment and lime will clog parts
5. Check water pressure > low pressure will cause tankless to stop heating
6. Check community conservation plans > tankless heaters require high water flow
7. The promise of unlimited hot water is not consistent with energy savings
8. Add up BTUs of your gas appliances to see if gas meter is large enough
Read very long list of things to know before buying tankless
All tankless have circuit board
Gas and electric require surge protection
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